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There were four distinct rainy periods: The first occurred on December 9, , the second on December 23—28, the third on January 9—12, and the fourth on January 15— Their storytellers described water filling the valley from the Coast Range to the Sierra. At Weaverville , John Carr was a witness to the sudden melt of snow by the heavy rain and onset of the flood in December on the Trinity River:.

From November until the latter part of March there was a succession of storms and floods The ground was covered with snow 1 foot 0.

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The water in the river When rising, the river seemed highest in the middle From the head settlement to the mouth of the Trinity River, for a distance of one hundred and fifty miles, everything was swept to destruction. Not a bridge was left, or a mining-wheel or a sluce-box. Parts of ranches and miners cabins met the same fate. The labor of hundreds of men, and their savings of years, invested in bridges, mines and ranches, were all swept away. In forty-eight hours the valley of the Trinity was left desolate.

The county never recovered from that disastrous flood. Many of the mining-wheels and bridges were never rebuilt. Two years later William H. Brewer saw near Crescent City , the debris of the flood:. The floods of two years ago brought down an immense amount of driftwood from all the rivers along the coast, and it was cast up along this part of the coast in quantities that stagger belief.

It looked to me as if I saw enough in ten miles along the shore to make a million cords of wood The entire Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys were inundated. Transportation, mail, and communications across the state were disrupted for a month. The rainy season commenced on the 8th of November, and for four weeks, with scarcely any intermission, the rain continued to fall very gently in San Francisco, but in heavy showers in the interior.

According to the statement of a Grass Valley paper, nine inches of rain fell there in thirty-six hours on the 7th and 8th inst The North Fork of the American River at Auburn rose thirty-five feet, and in many other mountain streams the rise was almost as great. On the 9th the flood reached the low land of the Sacramento Valley. The bridge spanning the river initially withstood the flood waters but was destroyed when the debris of the bridge at Two-Mile Bar, only a short distance up river, torn from its foundation, crashed into the Knights Ferry Bridge, crushing the truss supports and knocking it from its rock foundation.

Sacramento , sited at the junction of the Sacramento and American Rivers, was originally built at 16 feet 4. The New York Times reported on January 21, that a trapper who had spent more than 20 years in California had frequently boated over the city's site, and in , the water at the location was 7 feet 2. The Sacramento flood plain quickly became inhabited by a growing population during the Gold Rush served as the central hub for commerce and trade and the home of political leadership, the California State Legislature.

The landscape was recognized as a flood prone landscape located at the confluence of the American and Sacramento River. Although much of it is not cultivated, yet a part of it is the garden of the state. Thousands of farms are entirely under water—cattle starving and drowning. Photographs provided by the Center for Sacramento History shows water canals replacing city streets and boats docked to storefronts replaced by carriages.

Much of Sacramento remained under water for 3 months after the storms passed. As a result of flooding, the California State Legislature was temporarily moved to San Francisco during rebuilding and renovating the sunken city of Sacramento. The city of Sacramento suffered the worst damage due to its levee , which lay in a wide and flat valley at the junction of the American and Sacramento rivers. When the floodwaters entered from the higher ground on the east, the levee acted as a dam to keep the water in the city rather than let it flow out.

Soon the water level was 10 feet 3. John Carr wrote of his riverboat trip up the Sacramento River when it was at one of its highest stages of flood:. I was a passenger on the old steamer Gem, from Sacramento to Red Bluff. The only way the pilot could tell where the channel of the river was, was by the cottonwood trees on each side of the river. The boat had to stop several times and take men out of the tops of trees and off the roofs of houses. In our trip up the river we met property of every description floating down—dead horses and cattle, sheep, hogs, houses, haystacks, household furniture, and everything imaginable was on its way for the ocean.

Arriving at Red Bluff, there was water everywhere as far as the eye could reach, and what few bridges there had been in the country were all swept away. Dozens of wood houses, some two stories high, were simply lifted up and carried off by the flood, as was "all the firewood, most of the fences and sheds, all the poultry, cats, rats and many of the cows and horses".

The Chinese in their poorly built shantytowns were disproportionately affected. A chain gang was sent to break open the levee, which, when it finally broke, allowed the waters to rush out of the city center and lowered the level of the flooding by 5—6 feet 1.

Eventually the waters fell to a level on a par with the lowest part of the city. Sacramento put efforts into restructuring the city's foundation by re-channeling the American River, reinforcing the established levee system, and passing a two-decade project to raise the city above flood level.

Due to the high costs associated with flood recovery the city of Sacramento reached out to the aid of the Transcontinental Railroad Co. Prior to the great flood, levee breaks and failures caused much destruction from flooding. The Transcontinental Railroad had laid tracks across the Sierra Nevada and stationed its major repair and production line in Sacramento.

At the time, Chinese labor force consisted of immigrants accustomed to the Mediterranean climate that closely resembled that of their homeland.

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The Chinese workforce of over 14, works reconstructed levees under the guidance of Charles Crocker, the head contractor for Central Pacific Railroad. Flood design includes raised front porches with stairs leading down to the street. In addition, small hallow spaces are built into the basement level to allow for basement flooding and aeration.

Ruins of the old city remain underneath the streets as tunnels leading nowhere with hallow sidewalks, filled in entrances, trap doors, and rubble where storefronts and walkways used to be. Large wooden beams and dirt brought in from surrounding areas helped to stabilize and build on top of the once flooded city.

No mail was received at Los Angeles for five weeks. The Los Angeles Star reported that:. The road from Tejon , we hear, has been almost washed away. The San Fernando mountain cannot be crossed except by the old trail The plain has been cut up into gulches and arroyos, and streams are rushing down every declivity. The plains of Los Angeles County, at the time a marshy area with many small lakes and several meandering streams from the mountains, were extensively flooded, and much of the agricultural development that lay along the rivers was ruined. In most of the lower areas, small settlements were submerged.

These flooded areas formed into a large lake system with many small streams. A few more powerful currents cut channels across the plain and carried the runoff to the sea. In Los Angeles County, including what is now Orange County the flooding Santa Ana River created an inland sea lasting about three weeks with water standing 4 feet 1.

At Santa Barbara County , the narrow coastal plains were flooded by the rivers coming out of the mountains. The San Buenaventura Mission Aqueduct that was still drawing water from a tributary of the Ventura River for the town of Ventura water system, was abandoned due to the damage in the area that become the separate Ventura County in In San Bernardino County , all the fertile riverside fields and all but the church and one house of the New Mexican colony of Agua Mansa , were swept away by the Santa Ana River, which overflowed its banks.

In San Diego , a storm at sea backed up the flood water running into the bay from the San Diego River , resulting in a new river channel cut into San Diego Harbor. The continuous heavy downpour also changed the look of the land, the previously rounded hills were extensively cut by gulleys and canyons.

To the north, in the Owens Valley , similar snow and flooding conditions as those to the east in Aurora, Nevada see below , led to the local Paiute suffering the loss of much of the game they depended on. Cattle newly driven into the valley to feed the miners, competed with the native grazers and ate the native wild plant crops the Paiute depended on to survive. Starving, the Paiute began to kill the cattle and conflict with the cattlemen began, leading to the subsequent Owens Valley Indian War.

On March , the Wool Growers Association reported that , sheep and , lambs were killed by the floods. Even oyster beds in San Francisco Bay near Oakland were reported to be dying from the effects of the immense amounts of freshwater entering the bay. Full of sediment, it covered the oyster beds. One-fourth [12] to one-third of the state's property was destroyed, and one home in eight was carried away or ruined by the flood-waters. Flooding began in December in Carson Valley from a series of storms in the upper Carson River basin. In the vicinity of Aurora , there had been light snowfall in November, then mild weather until Christmas Eve, when there began a heavy and rapid snowfall for days.

The temperature dropped below zero and the passes over the Sierras were closed. During the second week of January, it warmed slightly, and the snow became a torrential rain. Esmerelda and Willow gulches overflowed their banks and flooded Aurora. After a week, it cooled again, and snow began to fall again. Within a few days, the snow was deeper than it had been before the rains had begun to fall. Settlers were driven from Fort Harmony when the fort had to be abandoned after most of its adobe walls were washed away during this flood.

New Harmony and Kanarraville , in Iron County , were the settlements created by refugees from this disaster later in The river overflowed its banks to the extent that there was water 20 feet 6. The riverside home of steamboat entrepreneur George Alonzo Johnson and the nearby Hooper residence were the only places in the town unharmed because they were built on high ground.

The Gila River also flooded, covering its whole valley at its mouth where it met the Colorado from the sand hills on the south to the foothills on the north. Further east the road was flooded, buildings and vehicles swept away and traffic was disrupted for some time thereafter by the mud covering the road to Tucson.

Much of the livestock along the rivers drowned and the crops of the Indians along the river were destroyed. The great snow pack laid down during the winter of —62, in the southern Rocky Mountains , and other ranges, the sources of the Rio Grande , caused a great spring flood in that river that changed its course in the Mesilla Valley. The flood also impeded the operations of the California Column attempting to cut off the retreating Confederate Army of New Mexico.

On July 8, , Lt. Edward E. Eyre, First California Volunteer Cavalry wrote:. The Rio Grande has been unusually high this summer, almost the entire bottom between Fort Craig and Mesilla being still overflowed. It is impossible at this time to approach Mesilla on the west side of the river, a new channel having been washed out on that side of the town, through which the largest portion of the water flows; besides, the bottom for a long distance is overflowed, and, the soil being of a loose nature, animals mire down in attempting to get through it. Instead of crossing at Messilla, the high waters and course change forced Eyers detachment to cross the Rio Grande, up river at the old San Diego Crossing below Fort Thorn , after waiting another week for the water to go down, which allowed the rearguard of the Confederate Army to escape into Texas.

Messilla, built on the west bank of the Rio Grande after the Mexican—American War , was left by the movement of the river on its east bank where it remains today. Until the Great Flood of , what became Port Isabel Slough , in Sonora, Mexico , was a shallow tidewater slough, but the extreme flood waters of that year cut its channel much deeper, so that at low tide it still was three fathoms deep. The mouth of this slough was only 5 miles 8. Pierson, found and entered this slough and discharged her cargo there for the first time.

Subsequently, the steamers, sailing ships and later ocean-going steamships loaded and off-loaded their cargoes there, and the steamboat company established Port Isabel 2. The port lasted until After the Southern Pacific Railroad reached Yuma, it was abandoned the following year, the shipyard there being removed to Yuma. The storm was not an isolated occurrence. Geologic evidence has been found that massive floods, caused by torrential rainfall from massive storms, have occurred in California roughly every to years.

The official name for such an event is an " ARkStorm ", and it is unofficially called "The other big one". This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9—12, and contributed to a flood that extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon, and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in the Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in the Utah Territory, and Arizona in the western New Mexico Territory.

The event was capped b. Great Flood is a phrase used to describe the central event in any catastrophic flood. Some may be of the flood myth, whether historically accurate or mythological, while others are severe floods from around the world. Great Flood may also refer to: Deluge prehistoric , evidence for prehistoric floods sometimes individually referred to as great floods Flood myth and List of flood myths Genesis flood narrative in the Hebrew and Christian Bible, which includes Noah's Ark Great Flood China , a flood dating from the 3rd millennium BC Great Flood of , the biggest flood ever recorded on the Missouri River and Upper Mississippi River in terms of discharge Great Flood of in the Midwest U.

Great Flood of , a flood in California, U. These are U. Floods in the United States before is a list of flood events that were of significant impact to the country, before Floods are generally caused by excessive rainfall, excessive snowmelt, and dam failure. Prehistoric events Kankakee Torrent The Kankakee Torrent was a catastrophic flood that occurred between 14, and 18, years ago, resulting from the breach of a large glacial lake formed by the melting of the Wisconsin Glacier.

The origin of the flood may have been prehistoric Lake Chicago, it may have come from further east, near what is today the center of the Lower Peninsula of the state of Michigan. The torrent carved out a channel that is currently followed by the Kankakee River and Illinois River. It also appears to have pushed the course of the Ohio River further south and the Mississippi River further west.

In both parks, smaller streams flow over waterfalls before they join the main. Model image of the enormous atmospheric river that may have been present during the last ARkStorm event. The event would be similar to exceptionally intense California storms that occurred between December and January , which dumped nearly 10 feet of rain in parts of California, over a period of 43 days. The California flood of was a massive flood that submerged large portions of present-day California, which may have been caused by an ARkStorm.

The megaflood was a result of sustained major rain storms across the region, enhanced by an unusually powerful atmospheric river. In addition to this event, geologic evidence indicates that other "megafloods" occurred in the California region in the following years A.

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Tate Gallery. The Genesis flood narrative is a flood myth[a] found in the Tanakh chapters 6—9 in the Book of Genesis. A global flood as described in this myth is inconsistent with the physical findings of geology and paleontology. The flood was caused by two Pacific storms that swept across the Los Angeles Basin in February-March and generated almost one year's worth of precipitation in just a few days.

Between — people were killed by the flooding. Flood control structures spared parts of Los Angeles County from destruction, while Orange and Riverside Counties experienced more damage. Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies began to channelize local streams in concrete, and. This list of United States natural disasters is a list of notable natural disasters which occurred in the United States from to Unless otherwise noted, the year given is the year in which the currency's valuation was calculated.

The Camp Fire was the worst fire in California to this date, and was fueled by large national forests. Established in , Eldoradoville at its height of population had three stores and six saloons. It was washed away on January 18, , in the Great Flood of One of the principal rivers of the Oregon Coast and known for bass and shad, the river drains an expansive network of valleys in the mountains west of the Cascade Range and south of the Willamette Valley, from which it is separated by the Calapooya Mountains.

The river and its tributaries flow entirely within Douglas County, which encompasses most of the watershed of the river from the Cascades to the coast. The "Hundred Valleys of the Umpqua" form the heart of the timber industry of southern Oregon, generally centered on Roseburg. The Native Americans in the Umpqua's watershed consist of several tribes, such as the Umpqua a band of the Coquille for which the river is named , and the Kalapuya.

These tribes witnessed much of the Great Flood of This is a list of major floods. List of Floods By Year 14th century St. Mary Magdalene's flood occurred on the feast day on and around the feast day of St. Even the river Eider north of Hamburg flooded the surrounding land. The affected area extended to Carinthia and northern Italy. The overall number of casualties is not known, but it is believed that alone in the Danube area people were killed.

Eidum on the island of Sylt was destroyed, its inhabitants left and f. November satellite image showing clouds from north of Hawaii to Washington, a Pineapple Express configuration Pineapple Express is a non-technical term for a meteorological phenomenon characterized by a strong and persistent flow of moisture and associated with heavy precipitation from the waters adjacent to the Hawaiian Islands and extending to any location along the Pacific coast of North America. A Pineapple Express is an example of an atmospheric river, which is a more general term for such narrow corridors of enhanced water vapor transport at mid-latitudes around the world.

Causes and effects How the Madden—Julian oscillation can induce a Pineapple Express A Pineapple Express is driven by a strong, southern branch of the polar jet stream and is marked by the presence of a surface frontal boundary which is typically either slow or stationary, with waves of low pressure traveling along its length. Each of these low-pressure systems brings enhanced rainfall. The conditions are often created by t. First constructed near Sacramento, across the river from Sutterville the camp operated from until it was evacuated due to the flood waters from the Great Flood of The second camp site was located on the east side of the river in Sutterville.

These camps primarily served as a training camps for California volunteer regiments. Toward the end of the conflict, the camp became a discharge center for returning troops until the post was closed and abandoned in The troops of the 5th Regiment California Volunteer Infantry, organized and training in the camp at the time, aided the flooded capital of California during the Great Flood.

Camp Carleton was the largest of several military camps to be maintained at various times in the vicinity of San Bernardino. It was established in the fall of by Captain William A.

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McCleave and a detachment of the 1st California Cavalry to check any successionest activities in San Bernardino County. After the camp was flooded in the Great Flood of , the camp's garrison was moved to El Monte, where they established New Camp Carleton. It was first published in the August issue of the Overland Monthly and helped push Harte to international prominence.

The boy's mother, Cherokee Sal, dies in childbirth, so the men of Roaring Camp must raise it themselves. Believing the child to be a good luck charm, the miners christen the boy Thomas Luck. Afterwards, they decide to refine their behavior and refrain from gambling and fighting. At the end of the story, however, Luck and a villager, Kentuck, perish in a flash flood that strikes the camp.

Roaring Camp was a real place. It was home to forty-niners seeking gold in and around the river; it is now a privately owned tourist attraction. Plot s. George Metropolitan Area. The population was 6, at the census, up from 4, at the census. History In , Jacob Hamblin was called by Brigham Young to serve a mission to the southern Paiute and settled at Santa Clara in the vicinity of the modern city of St.

George, Utah. The town is among the oldest in the area. In the fall of , Swiss Mormon colonists arrived at the new settlement, but shortly afterward were victims of the large flood in the Clara River that wiped out the fort and most other buildings, its irrigation dams and ditches, in early in This flood was part of the Great Flood of 1. Mokelumne, established in , was the second largest town in San Joaquin County until it was destroyed by the floods of Sloops built there ran direct to San Francisco.

It rose to poll votes, but the Great Flood of so ravaged the place that it never recovered. References "Mokelumne City". Retrieved Megastorm may refer to: Historic superstorms ARkStorm, an extremely rare once-in-a-lifetime storm that causes historic, extremely damaging flooding over the period of a month. California flood of , the most powerful ARkStorm event known. This event was at least 50 percent more severe than the other ARkStorm events The Great Flood of , the most recent ARkStorm event, in which large portions of California were submerged under at least 10 feet of water, especially in Central Valley.

See also Hypercane - hypothetical extreme tropical cyclones that could reach the size of continents and last for several weeks on average. From to , it was a stagecoach station on the Butterfield Overland Mail route, 12 miles southeast of Visalia and 14 miles north of Tule River Station. It lay on land owned by the prosperous cattleman Elisha Packwood. In the winter of - , the station, Packwood's cattle and all his other property were swept away in the flood waters of the Great Flood of His once fertile land was buried in sand, making the vicinity worthless and the site unrecognizable.

The Christmas flood of was a major flood in the Pacific Northwest and some of Northern California between December 18, , and January 7, , spanning the Christmas holiday. It also affected parts of southwest Washington, Idaho, and Nevada. The valley is bounded by the Sierra Nevada to the east and the Coast Ranges to the west. It is California's single most productive agricultural region and one of the most productive in the world, providing more than half of the fruits, vegetables, and nuts grown in the United States. As of , some of the towns included may have small res.

Northrop, now a ghost town, was a small, early settlement in Washington County, Utah, United States, established in by Isaac Behunin. It was one of the settlements formed as part of the cotton growing colony in the County. Northrop was destroyed by the Great Flood of and the settlers moved to settle on some nearby land with more space for growth and above the river floods, in what is now Springdale. Nothing remains; the site was just beginning to be settled when it was washed away by the worst flood recorded in the Western United States.

Page John W. It was within New Mexico Territory when founded in Its site lies on the north side of the canyon, south of the Techatticup Mine, at an elevation of feet and above the mouth of January Wash at its confluence with El Dorado Canyon. Hurricane Harvey was a Category 4 hurricane that made landfall on Texas and Louisiana in August , causing catastrophic flooding and many deaths.

With peak accumulations of The resulting floods inundated hundreds of thousands of homes, whic. They formed a small settlement as part of the cotton growing colony in the area, at a place a couple of miles up the Virgin River from Grafton. Adventure was destroyed by the Great Flood of and the settlers moved to settle on some nearby land with more space for growth and above the river floods, in what is now Rockville. The site of Adventure is just west of Rockville, on the south side of the Virgin River east of Grafton. He spent one two-year term as Governor of California after his election in , and later eight years as a United States Senator.

As president of Central Pacific Railroad, beginning in , and later Southern Pacific, he had tremendous power in the region and a lasting impact on California. He is widely considered a robber baron.

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He was one of eight children of Josiah and Elizabeth Phillips Stanford. Marvin who from , settled on the south bank of the Tuolumne River and called the town "Empire City". Empire City was the head of navigation for small steamboats that could ascend the Tuolumne River carrying passengers and supplies. It was the shipping point for the large grain crops grown in the area. At its height, the town had three stores, a three-story hotel, two boarding houses, a blacksmith shop, a church, and a school house. The town was destroyed by flood waters during the Great Flood of A new railroad town was built 40 years later 1 mile north of the old town site, taking the name Empire.

Most ghost towns in Arizona are former mining boomtowns that were abandoned when the mines closed. Those that weren't set up as mining camps were usually established as locations for mills, or supply points for nearby mining operations. Some sites no longer have any trace of buildings or civilization and have reverted to empty land. While they may look all old and crotchety, far away from the river and lake, that there was good thinkin.

My next house will be built on the foundation of one of these old skeletons. If you are going to do disaster planning, you should look at reasonable extreme events, and simulating an event which actually occurred in seems quite reasonable. With so many houses and roads in canyons and on hillsides, surely there will be more mudslides on now-denuded hills with no tree roots anchoring the soil. Many people now live in places where they are in grave danger from a one in a century rain event. We already saw in WUWT a few days ago what happens in Brazil when people live in flood plains and denude hillsides — people get washed away, mudslides inundate areas of towns.


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So this ARKstorm effort is good. Yes, surely people will be quick to attribute the next year precipitation event in CA to global warming, the media will be all over it. But simply preparing to deal with the next time historical precipitation comes? That can only be good. At first I thought the USGS was a little out of their box on this but looking at their web site I was wrong, They are a federal agency that is now knee deep into climate as it pertains to the earth and creatures and plants.

How much tax dollars are going for duplication of effort. Perhaps the new congress will take a look at agencies that are extending their reach and duplicating effort. At least now I know what the number looks like but frankly we should expect more from the USGS than a scare tactic.

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Whatever happened to presenting the case in person in a rational way rather than using dramatic graphics from of all places an arts college. How much did that cost. Brewer, the field leader of the Whitney Survey of California between and It provides some brief descriptions of the effects in San Francisco and Sacramento and environs. Also included is the monthly rain gauge data from S. That means most of the LA and Orange County metropolitan area was under water!

Granted that a tremendous amount of flood control engineering work has been subsequently constructed in these watersheds, but the order of magnitude of the flood is about three times the size of the event flood which prompted the construction of the flood control works. As an AGW skeptic, I keep repeating that none of the extreme weather events that have occurred in recent years are unprecedented.

Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of hydrology knows this. As someone noted above, the Victorian floods are estimated to have a recurrence interval of 1 in 2oo years. Same goes for the Queensland floods. We forget historical precedent at out peril. People are growing darker and cooler to everything. It has been demonstrated repeatedly in the past year that people are growing cooler to government every day, April 15 is expected to be the coldest day of the year in the US.

Note: When yer pipes back up call Joe The Plumber! For a free estimate call Ask for Joe. This offer good everywhere in the world except where prohibited by law; and in California. Sarc Off. Of course preparation for and extreme scenarii are part of knowledge. That has been happening throughout my lifetime and neither public nor government planning addresses the matter.

The thousand-year floods in St. Louis were noteworthy because they produced a lot of video footage of houses being swamped, but all those houses were in the flood plains. And folks are constantly building levees which do nothing but save up for the really big floods. And the government permits all this, then rushes in with government aid when the flood happens. Louis residents, you had to drive ten miles just to see the flood. My point is that the emphasis should be on the flood plains, not on the size of the expected storm.

Am I wrong on this? Would the ARK flood do serious damage beyond the flood plains? If so, can someone put this damage in perspective, please? I can answer that one! Flood potential is vastly different today than it was years ago. Perhaps locally in the Sierra foothills, but once the storm surge reaches the Great Valley, nothing but shallow inundation. Widespread, but shallow. It used to be a great science agency. I studied this in an environmental geology class way back in John Minch gave us a tour of the pending hydrological disasters of Southern California.

A hundred year flood would produce 4 times the flow of capacity of that channel. In the spring this reverses. Some people on this thread have missed that this sort of large-scale rainfall has occurred in the past. It is not a question of whether this will happen again, but when. With or without global warming. Not planning for and addressing this contingency would inevitably lead to massive loss of life, not to mention the huge economic impact it would have on the affected regions. We will one day be hit by an astroid, or subjected to the radiation of a huge solar flare, as well.

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I can remember when the USGS did some of the finest geology and hydrolgy in the world and now they are reduced to prognosticating and pontificating using computer models, and dialing for dollars by using scare tactics of the precautionary principle and this-may-happen scenarios. Sometimes mega-s! We better get ready for it. There are massive debris fields below every mountain range in southern california. The size of the stones is mostly in the 2 inch to 12 inch size range.

That suggests a sustained flow rate of very high proportions. However the historical floods show the one previous to was in — that is , not I guess their math is as good as their predictive models. Second — pitching disaster preparedness a la a SyFy disaster flick may not be the best way to approach things, even in especially in? Yes, it has happened and will probably occur again. Yes, people need to be aware of the risks.

But sheesh, my tax money went for this? Walls of water 10 ft high? Say goodbye to Al Gores SF frontage then!

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Unfortunately, thereafter, normal people have bought the dream that the charlatans have sold them. Keith Bates says: January 16, at pm Considering that we were supposed to be in a perpetual drought due to AGW getting a 1 in year flood is quite an achievement. There has been no claim of perpetual droughts. Just a claim of more frequent and intense droughts. There has been no claim that floods will go away. Predictions and actual temperature rises so far are small. You are conflating actual events now with predictions of the next years. Dennis Nkols says —— I think everyone needs to also keep in mind those who fail to plan or allow the plan to be corrupted by greed or neglect, think Australia, Pakistan and Brazil, if something like this gets people asking the right questions can that be all that bad?

Ignorant guesswork I would say. If you want to consider greed or neglect do it in you own backyard. Hurricane Katrina anyone???? LazyTeenager Greed and neglect are a minor aspect of the Katrina catastrophe. Major aspect was building, not in the flood plain, but below the flood plain. Below sea level, actually. Also, one can look to Katrina to see the importance of self-reliance, as opposed to dependence.

I live way above the flood plain. Dear California residents: Save yourselves. Evacuate California. Martin Brumby says: January 17, at am Stanley holloway. I remember it well. These are probably the same people who stopped the Auburn Dam near Sacramento. Such a storm and flood will happen. Well, I personally was not one bit worried about a storm that may or may not ever happen as I worked outside in shorts and bare feet in my SoCal yard today.


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  • If it happens, it happens, and there is nothing I can do to make it stop raining or shaking. People live happy lives every day in this world with far less than what I would have left after even the worst natural disaster. That might actually help people become interested, rather than tune it out. My blog entry here is my attempt to edumacate where the USGS falls short. I hope to have an in-depth article on the events by this December, the th anniversary of the storm.

    Perhaps USGS will begin work on its next disaster scenario. After all, it happened before so it could happen again. Run for cover! Build a backyard shelter! Invest in gold! As a Californian, I think of a giant weather system washing away Sacramento as a feature, not a bug. The possibility of an event off the scale is ever present. Our records of natural phenomenon are not long enough to really appreciate these extra large events. I think the year events are probably fairly accurate, but anything above that is a large amount of guess work.

    Whether it be fire, flood, wind, hail size, cold, wave heights, ECT. The youtube clip is terrible, drumming up irrational fear but the reasoning behind this program is sound. Like this: Like Loading Related posts. Arkstorm, NOAA……anybody else see the arrogance of this? California only costs money.

    Get all the people out of there. Weather porn? Jack Linard Were we talking about the Colorado River? Hm, I dunno.